Archive for July, 2018

And Yet Again, Get Off the TLO

Posted in Uncategorized on July 31, 2018 by marksamuels

All you’re doing is providing support for basic ideas that you detest.

 

 

And TLO Incels, please start breeding. You know, deep down, your own intellectual self-regard means it makes philosophical sense.

 

Mark S.

Back by Popular Demand

Posted in Uncategorized on July 24, 2018 by marksamuels

Dear [TLO controller]

Mark S.

And yet again, quit the TLO

Posted in Uncategorized on July 22, 2018 by marksamuels

Dear [TLO controller]

Well, you’re not “setting the record straight” at all, as you state,
I’m afraid. Quite the reverse. It’s selective self-justification on
your part.

You claim two of the three TLOers calling for me to be banned are
“political conservatives” (well, that must make it fine!) Clearly
then, the one who isn’t is probably [name redacted] (or possibly [name redacted] whose description of me as a “fucking c**t” you’ve allowed, I note, to remain on the Aickman thread). [update, not any longer, he’s banned too] Of the two others I can make an educated guess they would be “Cannibal Cop” (whoever he may be) and [name redacted] (who’s certainly not “conservative”, believe me; though he does fancy himself as a dandified Philosopher-King above such things as democracy). So, that’s two people with a recently acquired personal animus against me and one pseudonymous person who threatens to block anyone who disagrees with him as a matter of course. Still, to be agreeable, I’ll concede this Cannibal Cop person might be a conservative. For what that’s worth of course. Anyway, the calls for a ban (even historically) do overwhelmingly hail from a wave of millennial Leftists and their older facilitators who make an online song-and-dance out of their “victimhood” status. And don’t think, by the way, I haven’t tried being considerate and kind towards these people. I have. It came back to bite me the minute I stopped providing unconditional applause and public promotion for their every single literary activity. What they want is an endless cry of affirmation of their worth right now, whether it’s earned or not.

I suggest you urgently need a panel of moderators with differing perspectives. On the TLO any vocal “conservative” who dared to speak their mind regularly would fall foul, as I did, of the endless ranks of Leftists who wilfully scatter obsessive, false accusations of racism, Nazism, Alt-Right, etc etc around like poisonous confetti whenever they’re challenged. I suffered from that for years without any one of the perpetrators being banned by you, in fact they exponentially proliferated: Hidden X, Mr Cheev, Forgotten Prisoner, Dima Sokal, ChildofOldLeech, (Teguififthzeal/Luxfugio), Pharpetron, ‘Brian Janson’ etc etc (This is only off the top of my head. Need I go on?). So much for “balance”, then. Double standards negligently facilitated the problem: you could have nipped it in the bud or even curtailed it during my two or three year absence from the TLO when the cadre of obsessives then had a totally free hand. You say you only ban a person when one exhibits “consistently abusive and/or obsessive, aggressive behaviour towards members”. Not if it’s behaviour aimed at me, though. I got sick of seeing no action being taken. Still, as a point of honour, despite all the libels, smears, provocations and guilt-by-association I suffered, and from various quarters, never once did I, or would I, have called for a ban on anyone. It’s a admission of defeat; simply shutting up detractors rather than proving them wrong is always a mistake.

Anyway, I think a disinterested, truly impartial, moderator would have handled a contributor of long-standing as follows: consider the context, then issue a warning where required about poor behavior within the thread, and, if that failed, email the offender privately calling for order and requesting it cease. Then, and only then, would any ban be appropriate. Impulsively slapping a ban in place without a warning, especially when it affects someone like me who doesn’t hide away under an online pseudonym, smacks far too much of an attempt at a Leftist closing of ranks.

Lastly, I don’t see what my literary work has to do with any of this and why you keep bringing it up. It’s utterly irrelevant.

Now the record is really set straight. That’s a jolly old (private)
grenade for you.

All best etc
Mark S.”

 

Again, quit the TLO.

Posted in Uncategorized on July 19, 2018 by marksamuels

“Dear [TLO controller]

I accept your apology.

Oh, by “acting on impulse” I don’t mean to say I doubt you’ve long had it in mind to ban me; one of the reasons I bailed out a few years ago was because you trumpeted in advance the likelihood of it publicly in some old thread on the TLO. I jumped then before I was pushed. Where I was in error was in returning thereafter, thinking cordial relations between us had successfully been restored. “Old grudges” indeed, but from your side, not mine.

But more importantly, you’ve completely failed to address my central and most important contention that a whole host of TLOers now feel they have carte blanche, under your own odd idea of civil discourse, to shout “Fascist! Nazi! Racist!” with impunity at any passing conservative who dares put their head above the parapet. You refuse to take account of repeated provocations from doctrinaire Leftists who characterise any opinion to the right of Antonio Gramsci as extremist and far-right. What I’m asking of you is to be consistent in all cases. Why? That’s obvious. It’s the role of a genuinely impartial moderator unmotivated by animus or political bias.

I can’t think of many people you’ve permanently, rather than temporarily, banned off the top of my head: [name redacted] and that strange, pseudononymous chap obsessed with Iran and Persian-Aryanism are the only two that immediately spring to mind (and, despite being on the end of a [name redacted] roasting myself, and receiving some rather foul screeds from the other chap denigrating Catholicism, I still argued publicly against banning either of them). I am aware though that some people, banned previously, have returned surreptitiously under a new moniker and/or ISP address (not a thing I would ever stoop to, I hasten to add!)

Interesting that you state there’s already a TLO panel “more or less” like the one I suggested. This is the first time I can recall hearing about it. Is its membership a closely-guarded secret and did you consult them all in my particular case? I was only aware of one other formalised administrator, [name redacted], and he, I believe, defers to your judgement in such matters. And tell me, when those former bans you mention were rescinded, who did the repentant souls apologise to, before promising to reform in future? You personally, the whole panel, the individual member complainants, or publicly to the TLO in general? Who actually advises offenders they’re banned? Are you, in fact, sole Judge and Jury?

Doubtless you will regard any remarks I make criticising anyone for whatever reason at all as support for your “persecution complex” theory about me. Does “civil discourse” consist of saying that because I strongly disagree with you I should forthwith seek psychiatric help? Such ill-informed armchair-psychology-baiting does you absolutely no credit, I’m afraid.

My suggestion: spend less time frantically virtue-signalling online and more time actually writing weird fiction. I spend less than an hour online everyday.

All best etc

Mark S.”

 

Quit the TLO

Posted in Uncategorized on July 17, 2018 by marksamuels

Or deliberately get yourself thrown off. You know it, ultimately, makes sense. Messageboard notoriety of that kind is a complete waste of time.

Mark S.